On this day of yet another terrorist attack in Europe, I just wanted to remind everyone—especially the short memory fans of “reformists”—that the first Islamist terrorist attack in Western Europe was conducted by the Islamic Republic in Iran via its Iranian and Lebanese agents which took place on August 6, 1990 in Paris. The terrorists in that case--two of whom were Ali Vakili Rad (pictured above upon his return to Iran) and Zeyal Sarhadi, a great nephew of the then president of the Islamic Republic terror cartel Hashemi Rafsanjani—assassinated the former Iranian prime minister Shapur Bakhtiar.
The next terrorist attack in Europe was also conducted by Iran, and came a year later, on September 17, 1992, where two Kuridsh opposition leaders were assassinated on the orders of terrorist leaders Hashemi Rafsanjani and Ali Khemnei, who were president of the Islamic Republic of Iran (a terrorist cartel), and its Supreme Leader, respectively. The terrorists who conducted the attack were Iranian and Lebanese. From Wikipedia:
“The trial began in October 1993.[2] In the trial the German court found Kazem Darabi, an Iranian who worked as a grocer in Berlin, Abdolraham Banihashemi, an Iranian intelligence officer, and Lebanese Abbas Hossein Rhayel, guilty of murder and sentenced them to life in prison. Two other Lebanese, Youssef Amin and Mohamed Atris, were convicted of being accessories to murder. Abol Hassan Bani Sadr took part in the trial as a witness and told the court that the killings had been personally ordered by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and then president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.[2] There was also a getaway driver named Farajollah Haider (aka Abu Ja'far).”
So, please, while we remember the ones who perished in the terrorist attacks today, and last year in Paris, please let’s not lose sight of the terrorist entity that was the first to conduct Islamist terrorist operations on European soil.
Act of assassination is different from terrorism; not better or worse, but most certainly different.
Nope. Still terrorism, especially if you do it in a restaurant full of people.
You want to get rid of terrorism around the world, go after the IRI regime and their few million supporters! And yes, you need to take them out militarily! They are not going to go away through reform process! IRANIANS are incapable of removing them. They will certainly not going to go away through hugs and kisses!
Thank you for this very timely reminder.
And dont forget the Islamist republic's key role in 9/11 attack, per recent court ruling.
September 11
The U.S. indictment of bin Laden filed in 1998 stated that al-Qaeda "forged alliances . . . with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies."[46] On May 31, 2001, Steven Emerson and Daniel Pipes wrote in The Wall Street Journal that "Officials of the Iranian government helped arrange advanced weapons and explosives training for Al-Qaeda personnel in Lebanon where they learned, for example, how to destroy large buildings."[53]
The 9/11 Commission Report stated that 8 to 10 of the hijackers on 9/11 passed through Iran and their travel was facilitated by Iranian border guards.[46][54] The report also noted that "a senior operative of Hezbollah" (Imad Mughniyah) was on the flights that convoyed the future hijackers from Saudi Arabia to Tehran, along with associates that Kenneth Timmerman describes as "Iranian agents".[54][55] The extent of Iranian involvement has been questioned due to major differences between the religious ideologies of Iran and al Qaeda;[56] according to the 9/11 Commission report, Mughniyah's presence on flights carrying the hijackers to Iran may have been a "remarkable coincidence."[54] After the commission called for "further investigation" into a possible Iranian role in the attacks, President George W. Bush demanded that Iran sever its ties with al-Qaeda, while saying that in his view, "There was no direct connection between Iran and the attacks of September 11."[55]
Judge George B. Daniels ruled in a federal district court in Manhattan that Iran bears legal responsibility for providing "material support" to the 9/11 plotters and hijackers in Havlish, et al. v. Osama bin Laden, Iran, et al.[57][58] Included in Judge Daniels' findings was that Iran "used front companies to obtain a Boeing 757-767-777 flight simulator for training the terrorists", Ramzi bin al-Shibh traveled to Iran in January 2001, and an Iranian government memorandum from May 14, 2001 demonstrates Iranian culpability in planning the attacks.[57] Defectors from Iran’s intelligence service testified that Iranian officials had "foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks."[56]
Yes except in those days Europeans were a sleep and if they were awake they were in bed with islamists! (If you go to bed with a whore don't complain next day about getting VD!)Just about majority of these assisinations were cordinated from IRI embassy in Berlin and Switzerland and you are telling me not one security agency in these countries were watching or monitoring communications coming from these places? And lets not forget assisination of MR. Tabatabaie if I am not mistaken in Washington D.C by IRI agents (Where where the FEDS then?)
I think I am all out of sympathy for liberal idiots and their policies in U.S and Europe. You reap what you sow.
Worst part that separates this from other terrorist acts is that the regime of the clergy perpeterates these acts against their own people. What could be worse?
You're likely to be a potential future opposition? No worries, we'll just kill you!!
Thanks for the blog.
I wanted to mention the assassination of Kurdish leader Dr. Sharafkandi and his team took place in Mykonos Greek restaurant in Berlin under order of mullahs' ministry of information.
This line of terrorism started in 1979 once a bunch of the theives and murderers took power in Iran. The line of terror continues till today. We did NOT have such a blunt and savage terrorism in 50's, 60's or 70's.
The news today is heart breaking. Over 30 innocent people were kiled for no reason. Belgium authorities pointing their fingures at ISIS.
What establishment inspired Talibans in Afghanistan (1996) ISIS in Iraq (2014) Muslim brotherhood in Egypt (2012) and all those Islamists think of reaching political power ?
Who gave those people such an idea that Islam religion could be used as a weapon against the western world ?
What was the initial "role model" for these monsters ?
Was His Majesty, the Great Aryamehr, a terrorist, then?...The answer is either yes, or no...
What did he do? Did he send terrorists to Europe too?
Please answer: Yes or no?
No can do until I recieve the information I asked for. Until then, you can pound sand. And I'm being polite.
And I'm not Fred. I don't tolerate trolls. Keep that in mind...bikar.
It's your blog, and you can chicken out whenever and however you want; but still an answer is due...Who the F is Fred?
Ouch, that must have hurt...
Speaking of chicken, did you ever take up my offer of a paid one way ticket to Gaza to fight the Jews, and send Israel back to its 1967 borders, or are are you still suffering from a severe lack of b*lls?
PS- I've had enough of you for today. You're trolling now, and sucking up the oxygen out of this thread--which probably hurt you a lot since we talked about your cousin Ali Vakili Rad. Now, I'm a fair person, and will give you five minutes to post a response to this comment, after which time you will be blocked from this thread for being a troll.
whatever you say, my friend...whatever you say...maybe another time...sooner or later...
I blocked you. I will give you time to cool off and will unblock you in a few hours. Don't troll me again.
We can't let our hatred of IRI to blind us from seeing the truth and the real cause of the Jihadi terrorism. IRI terrorists were sent to assassinate political figures and they didn't care if ordinary people were killed in the process. Bombing the Jewish Centre in Argentina is the only exception that I can think of. These Jihaddis just want to kill the ordinary people for not being Muslims. The root of this Jihadi violence is in Saudi Arabia and the rich violent Bedouins. Ex-Cop said it right; IRI perpetrates these acts against Iranian people. IRI and Al Saud are both savages but let us be fair in our judgement.
@divaneh: so the IRI didn't send its terrorists to bomb French, US, and Israeli embassies in Lebanon, Kuwait, and Argentina? What about IRI support for Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and terrorists in Iraq, Yemen, and Syria? Were the IRI agents arrested or wanted in Thailand and Kenya targeting "political figures"? It didn't engage in kidnapping of journalists in Beirut (are they "political figures"?) Was Farrokhzad a "political figure"? Is Rushdie a "political figure"?
@AO: I think Comrade/Mini/Pendar/Republican___/____/ might be feigning some phony Commie outrage alluding to the Shah assassinating Teymour Bakhtiar in Iraq, for which the Shah was the likely culprit. Bakhtiar fled to Iraq and was plotting with the Iraqi government against the Shah. All the other "assassinations" blamed on the Shah (e.g. Takhti, Shariati, Mostafa Khomeini) were lies invented by the Ann-Ghollabis, like their lies about Cinema Rex, Jaleh Square, etc, etc, etc
Dear Amir, I agree with all the points that you raised although I think people like Farokhzad were political and paid a price for their bravery. Do not take me wrong, I hate IRI as much as you do but I think we can't ignore the real culprit in these cases which is the Salafi Islam that Al Saud has been spreading all over the world including in the Europe under the noses of its governments who were busy closing deals with them. You made a good point about the IRI support for terrorist groups making it an accomplice. If however we are looking for the beginning of Islamic terrorism we have to go further back into 70s and acts of terrorism by the PLO including slaughter of the Israel's Olympians. Unfortunately history shows that terrorism has paid and that is the saddest part of all.
Dear divaneh, fair enough, but let's also remember that forerunners of the IRI in Iran, like Navvab Safavi and Fadaiyan-e Eslam, were assassinating the likes of Ahmad Kasravi and Razmara in the 1940s and 1950s.
Shazdeh Ass-Dola the bemal bemalist naghola!!
I see you got it all planned in advance! Just like your Sunni brothers in Brussels! You get blocked from a blog for laat baazi and you come back five minutes later as a polite little reformist of a Pussy Cat! I dig it! The battle for "hearts and minds" for haji hashemi rafsanjaani the eshaali is a full time job!
Good for you! So long as Trita Joon pays you $7/hour per account!
:)))
MInimalistika
Your getting blocked from so many blogs and reading your posts when you are hopping mad about something and writing with passion , just totally makes my day and gives me joy. your insistence on defending the idiots of the world and spreading hatred about those real reformers and classy and sophisticated leaders however, is an issue that you have to work on.
Bye bye miss communist pie...You drove ur chevy to the Volga river levee...but the levee was dry...
Actually, the problem is that Shah did NOT assasinate enough people, or we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.
Dear Divaneh - I respectfully disagree. The Islamic Republic has deliberately targeted civilians in its terrorist attacks. Asdie from what you and Amir mentioned, other sxamples include hijacking of American and Kuwaiti airliners through its Lebanese terrorist mastermind ioerative Imad Moghniyeh which resulted in death of civilians. Also, the Islamic Republic was behind the suicide attacks at the Marine barracks in Beirut and the Air Force barracks in Khobar, Saudi Arabia. While the casualties in those attacks were mainly American servicemen and women, at that time Iran was not in any dort of a military conflict with the United States, which makes those terrorist attacks simply murder of innonect human beings. Lastly, let's not forget IR's biggest terrorist act, which is taking American diplomats hostage in Tehran.
While Saudi Arabia is certainly involved in funding, and even arming, extremist Salafist terrorists such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda, the fact remains that for the past 37 years, Iran has been the biggest state sponsor of terrorism around the world. It has also been the inspiration and the role model for all these groups.
And I agree with COP and Amir - Shah didn't kill enough of these dirtbags. Had he done so, we as Iranians, and the world in general--would have been much better off today.
Everyone here is rasing some good and valid arguments about both countries here and their long history in perpetrating terrorism, But what is really going on here? Can we actually count these regimes and their operators as single, independent entities, or should we assume that they are nothing but puppers, who wear different hats and assume different roles, based on what they are being instructed.
Without a doubt, what we have here is a major involvement by main powers of the world, it is a turf war, brandishing their might and using destructive tools to stand by that, while killing innocent soldiers and civilians alike. Think about who is training these guys and who is paying for it all? who is providing them with a road map , and targets and who is behind all these extremely well-coordinated attacks? As much as it pains me to say this, we've got to admit that it can not be anything other than western governments , which UNFORTUNATELY at times, they end up taking citizens of their own countries down and make victims out of them.
It is a vicious cycle. I mean, who can deny the fact that these so-called rulers are not just a bunch of paid agents and operatives of various foreign intelligence services?
It is all about provoking one group against the other , to keep the cycle of trade and investment going. The show must go on...but who is out there to really care about the people of the world;(
"The show must go on...but who is out there to really care about the people of the world;("
Dear AO, some of the examples that you have given are military installations but still I never argued that IRI has not committed crimes against humanity or is any less of a terrorist than its Saudi counterpart. I however feel that by leveraging all the blames on the IRI we lose sights of the equally dangerous Al Saud regime. Attacks on ordinary Europeans are much more the hallmark of Wahabi-Salafi doctrine than the IRI. Today British intelligence foiled a plot by a Saudi born student and his mate who wanted to kill innocent people in Britain in a drive by shooting. The recent terror attacks in Europe and those that we fear may happen seem to have a lot more with Saudis than with IRI.
Terror plot by two students in the UK
Dear Mini/Comrade/Pendar/Repubican/Lonely Atom, etc, etc, etc:
Your trolling & Cyberstalking behavior is that of a man/woman bent on getting booted out of this website....again. As we say in the old country, "Tanet mikhareh".
Oh well, another day, another User Name for our "Tovaryshch" (LOL)
Mini Joon, Multiple User Name-e Azizam,
You are almost as amusing as jock itch or a thrombosed external hemorrhoid. Almost....
Mini joon
Don't put your hand on my tummy suger...u talk very feeleengly and dees makes me very feeeleengly too. I have a lott more to Offferrr eef you Just let me me honey joon. let me be myself...let me express myself...remove dese barzz...Eye am a bird ...eye need to parviz...
You are de deveeel.
User ID Divaneh:
I can assure you that the day shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi takes the office, all these so called "Islamic movements" from Saudi Wahabi or Salafis all the way to Lebanon and Mehdi army in Iraq, ....etc will be faded away. The whole dynamic of forces in the region will be changed drastically.
Similar situation was in Germany after WWII, Once Hitler collepsed, the idealogy of Nazi Germany faded away. Nowadays, there are some noises of Neo Nazi, but no one cares about them.
Siavash
That is too much optimism there. If we learned one thing from all that has been happening around us for so many years, is that even loyalty is subject to chnage and people , politicians change colors and...Compromise, when the situation calls for it.
I am by no means trying to diminish or question his loyalty, but hey , he is a human just like the rest of us first and formost.
Reza joon in the office? Which office? In Disneyland? I thought there would be a referendum, an election first... Did you guys lie to me? I don't like you anymore...you're bad...Bad Reza...
All "remaining" members of the Pahlavi family have to fully declare the source and the amount of their wealth and income. No buts, no ifs, no nothing...
Islamo fascist republic is poisonous for Iran at many levels no dispute about it but this current wave of attacks are primarily work of wahabi sect out there. Years of financing by Sauid Arabia, building all sort of mosque and Madrases from Mideast to Europe and Africa is now paying off. What does any one think being thought in these schools and mosques, modernity, women's right , freedom of speech and compassion? once again its a case of you reap what you sow.
Mini Joon
Zerreshk:)
But say i was able to convince them to do so, can you give me a contact number, an email address or a physical one so i can reach you?:)))
@Mr. Multiple User Names: "...have to fully declare the source and the amount of their wealth and income. No buts, no ifs, no nothing".
Isn't this a case of "You show me yours, and I'll show you mine"? (LOL)
Why hahaha zeresk?... Doesn't the US president publish his(and most likely, her) tax return every year?...So should all public figures in Iran and abroad... From mullahs to NIAC to Negahdar to MKO to the filthy Pahlavis...
Equilibrium is a concept in modern Physic. it talks about balances between forces. Once shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi takes the office, the balance between regional powers change. The new map and new order comes to the picture which is distinctively different from the old one.
Saudi funds..support of Sunni militia is a reaction to Shia led governments in the region. Islamization of whole world was the Khomaini's agenda from the day one he reached the power.
"our youths are thinking of putting Islamic flag on the top of the white house" . Said Khomaini frequently in his speeches.
In mid 1980's, Khomaini's videos were spreading in Kuwait and other Arab countries around Persian Gulf. He was promising Islamic Utopia to the Arabs. CNN was showing the Kuwaiti student girl who was saying that some Iranians hand out videos and disappear immediately. Khomaini was provoking Arab nations against U.S. Even Regan said it on CNN that Khomaini was provoking Arabs agasint America. He said it prior to knock down Iranian oil platforms in the Persian Gulf. it was too costly for Iranian government to repair those platforms.
Saudi and other Arab nations around Persian Gulf reacted harshly against the new wave of political turmoil by the name of Shiaism. Sultan Bin Bandar was Saudi foreign minister in those days. He said: "IRANIAN TERRORIST". It was written in a bold letter all over the newspapers in mid 1980's.
Action leads to reaction. If there is no threat from Shia led governments, Saudi or other Sunni governments don't need to do anything.
Once the Equilibrium changes, there is NO need for Saudi to finance or support Sunni rebels against Shia led governments.
Reza Pahlavi is a "publc figure", like the US Prez? Are you off your Haldol again, Mr. Multiple User Names?
And btw, what does the Gooz of this blog topic (IRI's terrorism in Europe) have to do with the Shaghigheh (Reza Pahlavi, etc)?
Of course, he is... Who then, my aunt Agnus?... And do me a favour... Tell this fellow of lion- in-the-flag that Sunni-Shia rivalry has nothing to do with what motivates militant Islamists nowadays... Tell him the royal ride in Disneyland is closed...Something like that...
Sure, whatever you say, Comrade. You argue very logically, factually, and above all, persuasively :-)
Somehow a blog about IRI terrorism comes down to Reza and pre-1867 borders (LOL)
Carry on, Comrade, carry on.
The west residing, west-hating morons who never ever learn.
This dude is "the one that got away"......Hint: Canada Dry bottles prior to gettin' away!
It's 1967, and that's where yous gonna go back to... How come no complain when that guy sends Reza to "office" right here?... Am I getting blocked again? Not fair...
WHo gives a shia about pre or post 1967 border of Israel? any one who does should travel there and convince the Jews!
Multiple User Name: I'm not Israeli or a "Zionist" or whatever. I'm never been to Israel in its 1867 or 2016 borders, nor have any of my family members.
Furthermore, no decent Iranian gives two sh*ts about Israel or the filthy Arabs -- only the scumbag Khomeinist and Communist Ann-Ghollabis do. Period.
You were saying, Jigaram?
Friends,
Please remember each indiividual represents certain "LINE OF THINKING" in our society.
For example, Khaminie (علی گدا) represents certain "line of thinking" , or shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi represents another line of thinking. The idiot on this blog also represents the line of thinking of idiots.
We should NOT hold grudge against certain individual because it has nohing to do with the person. Even Ali Geda or idiot may be good people in their hearts, but they're on wrong path. Their line of thiking leaded to misery/poverty of our people for 37 years. We all know it, but they don't know it. One doesn't know it because of his personal power and the other one doesn't know it because of lack of enough I.Q.
What we have to focus is the malfunctioing of those "line of thiking". Either Islamists or idiots.
We have to fight with the "line of thiking", NOT the person. People comes and goes. Sometimes they die as a result of old age!!. Now what ? Ali Geda and idiot may die as a result of old age. Now what ? but the line of their thinking continue to be present in our society.
Like I said before, once the Hitler collepsed the ideology of Nazi German faded away. Islamists line of thinking and idiot way of looking at the historical events will be faded away once we topple criminal mullahs from the power.
Then again, the idea of Monarchy becomes predominate in the region once shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi takes the office. Whole new map and new "EQUILIBRIUM". The new equilibrium pushes Islamic idea to go away as Nazi ideology had been pushed away once Hitler collepesed.
The new political turmoil started from Khomaini's Islamic ambitious for taking over the world under Islamic flag and it will be fadede away by widespread force of Monarchy ideology. Why Monarchy ?
Because Unlike Islamic idea which is farly new, Monarchy had been comingled with Iran's history for over 5000 years.
In future Iran, the children only read about Islamic monsters in high school history books.
You sound agitated; was it something I said... Let's cool off for a bit. Boos...
ha....ha... ha...
I just notice the above conversation.
Israel border in 1967 ? ha... ha..
Sounds like that Arab woman whom we kicked her rear end several months ago. The bastard was using Iranian name. Very sexy Iranian name... Nilofar.
NOT Fatima or Zahra which is Arabic orginally. NO, she was using very Iranian name.
I HATE ARABS AS MUCH AS I HATE MULLAHS.
Get lost from Iranian site. Your fight with Israel has nothing to do with us. Filthy Arab bastard.
Mini Joon
Your buddies, those who just like you push all sorts of anti-jew, anti-zionism mantras, etc, are busy planning on turning Europe into a pile of rubbles. Why don't you go and put a leash on these rabid dogs...opps...sorry, radicalized arabs, and stop them from ruining lives instead of distracting and creating diversions. People around the world are on to you and your stupid, retarded leaders.
Oh and by the way, my sweet friend, u will see all that stuff that you wanna see, in your non-dry dreams, in the same dream where Reza pr. will reveal how much money he was able to remove from iran, Who knows, he may even take you out to lunch if you behave and be on your best behavior.
Scorch earth policy man, when it comes to DOGS who could not control themselves, MOSLIM Or not:))) POOOOFFF.
A general msg to all those devotees of all these sheikhs and leaders out there
Oye! Akhmad mokhamad Khalil khaba baba abu baba
Those damn goats are not gonna feed themselves you know? Get off your behind, stop BSing around and stop sticking your head way deep in Sheikh Al goosaleh's poop pipe.
After that go and milk khanoom goli and deliver the milk and get the cash. WHo goes back to where, IS non of your concern. DO as you are told , if you wanna eat dried and stale bread:))
Remember ur spiritual terrorist , and Oghdeis were one co-goat/sheep herd managers as well.
Me, anti-Jew? No...Anti-Zionist? yes.
Fellow "Anti-Zionist" and moftkhor attendee of the "Anti-Zionist" Mollah Regime's conference in Tehran:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmrPPZwxgas
In other words, areh jooneh ammat (LOL)
Bullsh@t mini malijak! You're not an anti-Zionist. You're a liar. Because everytime you had the opportunity to prove your anti-Zionist stance, you backed out. In fact, if I were to guess, I would guess that you're an Israeli. There was an article not too long ago about a Jewish guy who had hundreds of different usernames on various sites, some of which were white supramacist and anti-semitic personas. I think you might be that guy. Anyway, here's your chance to both prove me wrong, and also to fight for your homeland of Felestin instead of sitting on your fat, latter drinking behind and posting nonsense online 24/7:
1) I will pay for your one way ticket to Gaza. You can choose the route, whether it be through Jordan, Egypt, Syria, or wherever else you can get in from;
2) you will go to Gaza, and join a militia;
3) you post a video of yourself fighting Israelis in Gaza. This part is very important. We want to have proof that you actually do the fighting. I don't want to waste my money on you 60 something year old loser ending up in a Syrian refugee camp in Jordan and marrying a 13 year old there. I know your type. I want to see proof that you actually did what you promised you would do.
Do we have a deal?
Name calling is a sign of weakness...Now on the subject: Judaism and Zionism are two different, most opposite, subjects...Yes... I have no problem with Judaism, Jews, Jewish iroonis, or Jewish whatever...not only that, I've married to one, you little ignorant clowns...the problem is with anti-Semitic, filthy, child killer Zionists...And that's that...
Blah, blah, blah...more safsateh...
Just like I thought...no ba**s, just hot air, and online comments....coward!
Mini. You don't like Zionists becasue they are expansionist, right?
Well, look at yourself! You with your 200 user id accounts have been trying to expand beyond your reach!
Are you telling me, you don't like yourself!?
@ Siavash
I share the same desire with you for the establishment of conditional monarchy in Iran and Reza Pahlavi on its throne, and I agree that it will profoundly changes the ME, but I don't think it would make any difference in Europe and the bombings by Salafi suicidal toss pots. The only thing that can end these violent acts in Europe is bombing Saudi and Qatar.
Oh now look what you did AO jan
Now she is gonna have to say special prayers 1000 times to her god almighty asking him for directions:)))
AO jan
I think i should fly alongside her, just to keep an eye on her, making sure her Palestinian-driven urges do not flare up and decide to wreak some havoc.
AO ...pal you right te best blogs
User ID Divaneh:
I think what pursuaded Saudi and Qatar to finance or support Sunni fundamentalism or rathere terrorism is a reaction to Shia led government in Iran and subsequently in Syria. Once that pressure or action from Iran goes away, Saudi or Qatar don't need to engage in any support of Sunni fundamentalism in Europe. Why should they do it ? I don't see any reason.
Of course these are just hypothetical thoughts.
No Siavash I don't think its that simple. At the end of the day Islam is Arab's culture and they would want to hang on to it and if any thing spread it.
Dear Doctor,
These guys are all the same. They're all in their 50's and 60's. They are all leftover ann-ghollabis. They all realize that their devolution failed--and failed badly. They are all cowards in that: 1) they were all outside of Iran when the revolution happened, and 2) they went back briefly. They noticed quickly what a f@@k up it was, and they all left with their tails between their legs out of sheer fear of the police state that they had created (while they could go back and forth freely and without fear while Shah was in power--and in fact Shah paid for the education aborad). So, what they do now? They troll Iranian sites, call everyone who doesn't share their failed ideology a Jew and Zionist and pick fights with these imaginary Jews and Zionists while drinking a flat white at the neighborhood Starbucks--while they collect Social Security and welfare. Pathetic...
Thanks Samsam bro--You're too kind. My blogs though never reach the level of yours in terms of knowledge of our ancient history--which in and of itself is like a hot iron rod up the you know what of a bunch of commie/ommatti fossils.
@Siavash
As MRX said this is not the case and you ignore their religious feeling and the fact that they have a lot of money to spread their religion. The Saudis have been hard at promoting their Salafi Islam in the west and wherever else they could in the last 40 years probably since invasion of Afghanistan by USSR. They were the precursor to Iran's Islamic government. As the centre of Islam they also benefit from it materially such as the huge pilgrimage business.
"NILOOFAR PARSI" ??!!!!!
Is that Trita's sister?!!
LOOOOL
bemal bedmalsit joonam, I always thought there was something feminine about you!
From now on you are a "shazdeh khanoom" Niloofar Parsi!
LOOOOL
AO aziz
Absolutely on the money. What is even more pathetic is that even to this day, with all the craziness and criminal activities they have witnessed taking place right before their eyes, they insist on maintaining the status quo , for one and only reason, because it serves their benefits.
I lived in the states for a long time and i had to return for some special reasons, and even though it has been a while, i have yet to even like what i see around me, let alone find /carve a niche for myself, yet i see people who come here from canada and the states and i look at their faces as if they are in heaven and are so awed and overwhelmed by what they see, and EVEN WORSE, they do their best to discourage those who want to immigrate.
I call them a bunch of Hypocrites, after all, they are the exact text book example of one, Want to have it both ways, have someone here to take care of their properties for them while they are out there "voorkkkeeng deir buddsss offf" and convicing those in here that they are having it soooooooooooooo good.
DOnt come to yoouuu eesss babaa...u become badddbakkkht:)
And preach non-stop their utterly ridiculous prescription for "change" and reform in this society. It is the classic case of "lengesh kon" in our most ancient and beloved Culture!!!
@MRX
@Divaneh,
I think you're making mistake between Islam as a relgiion with radical Islam.
Islamic books had been sat in the closet with a heavy dust on it for over 1000 years. Khomaini and his gang were the ones who brought those books out of closet and shoved to the throat of Iranians. NOT only that. They also wanted to export "Islamic revolution" throughout the world.
"our youth want to put the flag of Islam on the top of the white house" . Said the Khomaini frequently in his speech.
On the other hand, Saudi or Qatar never wanted to export "radical Islam" throughout the world. All these so called "Islamic movements" or as Khamini said "Islamic awakening" came to the picture after Khomaini.
Saudi had always been pro west from the time of Lawrence of Arabia. So was Qatar or countries around Persian Gulf. I don't remember they ever wanted to expand radical Islam to Europe.
Historically Islam had been expansionist from the time of Mohammad in Arabian Peninsula for the religion reaon, NOT political reason. Radical Islam came to picture since the time of Khomaini. Salafis, as Divaneh said, came to picture from the time of USSR occupation of Afghanistan. These are political Islam, NOT Islam as a relgion. Saudi benefits from pilgrime for religion reason, NOT political reason. That's why Saudi authorities reacted harshly to Mullahs' agents who orchestered riot and political demonstration in Mecca back in 1980's. Saudi was trying to keep the religion away from politic. On the other hand, Mullahs' agents wanted to show the face of political Islam to the people of the world during Haj ceremony. Khomani was saying "Islam is all pollitic". Saudi never had such an intention. During ceremony Mullahs' agents were chanting "death to America". Saudi police reacted harshly and about 400 people were killed.
All you see as Bin Laden, Salafis,......Wahabi....etc came to picture after Khomaini. These are production of Shia clergies taking over in Iran, not the other way around.
Khomaini was the first person who used Koran as a WEAPON against western world. NOT Saudi. NOT Qatar.
Khomaini interpret the meaning of "Damn on Satan" in Koran as "Damn on America". NOT Saudi or Qatar.
Khomaini was the first person who convert the notion of SUICIDE as MARTYR and legitimize to be committed suicide as a way to go to heaven after death. Saudi or Qatar never did that.
BTW,
Suicide is forbidden in Islam (Haram) , but Khomaini changed that concept.
Siavash
I think what you are missing in your analysis is human nature that hasn’t changed in thousands of years: forcing upon people language, values and culture has been going on forever, with Spaniard and Portuguese in south America, early pioneers and Americans in north America, Brits in Asia and Arabs spreading their language and culture (Aka Islam) in Mideast, Africa and where ever they could conquer. Years before psycho Khomeini came on the scene in 1960’s I think it was Algerian president Bomedian who said “through colonization and demography we will conquere Europe “ and in essence finish the job that Islamic army could not finish after their defeat. So with or without IRI, Islamic ideology is here to stay and it will conquere more people and land. The ptro dollar just makes it easier. The big question is what role should we Iranians have in that I say none and we should look into our own cultural and linguistic resurrection and renaissance.
Dear Siavash,
I am sorry but I have to disagree with most of what you said. If you look at the history of the Saudi you can see that a ruthless beduin tribe from the Najd desert came to power with the help of the British and forced a very strict Salafi version of Islam (Vahabism) on the more moderate urban section of the society. What we suffered in Iran in the last 37 years, the Saudi society has suffered for 90 years. The followers of the Vahabi Islam, who believe in applying the same violence that their prophet did, try to spread their version of Islam and have been the main source of finance for mosques and Sharia schools in West, poor Muslim countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, and Africa. The preachers and teachers in these stablishments are Salafis who promote the Salafi Islam that the rich Sheikhs of Saudi practice. They have been radicalising muslims in these societies for over 40 years and it had nothing to do with their relation with Iran. Religion in Saudi unlike what you said is extremely politicised and in fact the king receives his authority from the religious leaders. In the view of the Salafis all non muslims are kafirs, deserve to die and should be killed in order for Islam to triumph. The result of that belief system is the terrorism that we witness.
@MRX
Thanks for infomative comment. Yes, I think most of the things you said make sense. Human nature is a big factor that is there regardless of what establishment comes to power.
@Divaneh
"They have been radicalising muslims in these societies for over 40 years and it had nothing to do with their relation with Iran"
Divaneh
No, it had something to do with criminal mullahs' hegemoney in Iran. The radicalization of Islam in Saudi is a REACTION to what Shia led government in Iran was doing. Mullahs' agents were sent to Saudi to cause social turmoil during Haj ceremony right after Khomaini reached power in 1979. In 1980, Mullahs' agents were sent to Saudi with hidden knife and daggars. They started to chant "Death to America" during "baraat az moshrekin" ceremony. That endangered the whole Saudi kingdom. Saudi enjoyed the pilgrims, because they put money in Saudi's pocket, but they NEVER liked radical Islam. Saudi never used Koran as a WEAPON against western world. Never.
Yes, Saudi preaches Islam as the other religions do. Every religion propagates their faith to find more followers. More followers means more money and more money means more power. That applies to all religion. All relgion such as Christian, Judism, Bahaii,....etc. They want more followers. Islam is NOT exception. Like I said before, Lawrence of Arabia is a reminder of LOVE AFFAIR between Saudi and the west. Lawrence's mother was English and his father was Arabian. Saudi never showed any teech/ fist against west. They never raise cane against westerners. Never. I remember Saudi's foreign policy was exactly like U.S back in early 1990's. I remember all Americans were happy and pleased with Saudi in her foreign policy. Especailly when U.S navy was hit by Mullahs order. Gasper winburger lost his job. He was fired as a result, but he said he was resigning. Suadi always stood by western countries. Their relationship with west became a litle bitter after sept. 11 even though Mohmmad Atta was Egyptian,but majority of 9/11 crew were Saudis. I remember Sultan Bandar was very close friend with Ronald Raygan in 1980's. He was the one who called Iranians "Terrorist". That was written with bold letter at front page newspapers. All Americans were cheerleading Saudi. Saudi stood very firmly against criminal mullahs who wanted to cause accomotion during Haj ceremony in Saudi by chanting "death to America". Over 400 people were killed in that day. Khomaini threated U.S " That was American plan and we will revernge" Said the Khomani. In T.V show, "night line" Ted Kapel asked Rejaie Khorasani who was Iran's foreign minster... "The incident happened in Saud Arabia, why Ayatollah blamed U.S for that incident" ?
Rejaie Khorasani answered " Because this massacre in Saudi protect American's interests". Yes, that would have endangered the whole Saudi kingdom and they didn't want that happen so they reacted very harshly.
Just 2 years ago I even heard that Saudi created ISIS just to fight with criminal mullahs in Iran. I read the literature that was saying ISIS was masterminded by Sultan bandar because Shia led government in Iraq discriminated against Sunni brothers. For example, Al Malaki government didn't even allow Sunni people to take a government job. One of my friends said that 90 people applied for police department job. All Shia. As a result, one of the Sunni put a bomb in the center of examination. The center was blown and 90 applicants cut to pieces. My friend arrived there afterward and witnessed the bloody scene. Simialr situation was in Syria. Shia and Christian took all top government jobs and Sunni were harshly discriminated. 74% of Syrians are Sunni. Shia Alavi and Christianity are minorities, but they have government in their hands. Saudi was the one who stood by Sunnis in Iraq and Syria and eventually ISIS was created.
@Divaneh
I almost forgot to say about "Hottie" in Yeman.
Did you see how harshly Saudi reacted to the new wave of Shia or rather "Hottie movement" in Yeman ?
Again, that movement masterminded by criminal mullahs in Iran. It was intended to enforce Shia hegemony in Yeman. It would have endangered the whole Saudi's kingdom and Saudi Royal family. Did you see how quickly Saudi reacted ? Surely, Saudi never allow that movement to grow and prevail. Never. Saudi even get closer and close to Israel and there is a rumor that Saudi secretly negociating with Israelis. Why ? Again, that is REACTION to Shia led government in Iran. Once shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi takes the office, there is NO need for any threat from Shia clergies against Saudi's Royal family. Once Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi takes the office, the whole map in the region will change. New Equilibrium.
@Siavash
Ok, whatever you say.
Me thinks this all goes way back. Exhibit A: Chop a blind dude's head off for sitting in the hallway:
http://sendvid.com/2f5hws3y
Fesenjooooooooon! Dude, where have you been? Happy Nowruz!
Dude, I watched the video. Pretty eye opening. You should post it in the Farsi section. You're right though man...it's all the legacy of that decrepit religion....